The Guillebaud Report into the NHS was commissioned by the Conservative government in 1951, three years after the introduction of the free-at-the-point-of-need NHS, and was published in 1956.
Did it find:
A. That the NHS was a bottomless pit facing infinite demand because there were no patient charges.
B. That there was no real evidence of inefficiency in the NHS.
C. That the NHS was an inefficient communist monolith set up by pinko-commie lefties and it needed to be opened up to the free market to make it work.
Thursday, July 05, 2007
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come on there are so many reports on the nhs that you can find one to agree with any of those points of view
it is providing crap service, dirt, waits, nonsense, there is no mechanism in place to improve that, so it must be changed
Ah, the Moronanymous are on us again with their incisive grasp of evidence!
The point of the question was that in 1951 the Conservatives believed the NHS was innefficient.
The report they commissioned showed it was not. It could be improved on, but was at worst no more innefficient than what it had replaced (ie: private care pre-1948).
The question has nothing to do with the problems the NHS faces today, other than to say that people who believe a socialist model of care is a non-starter are fuckwits.
Anon (i think he may be the same as the poster no-one) is a constant pain in the terminal GI tract sphincter.
His one recurrent post is actually making me thin khe may have short term memory loss as he can;t seem to fking remember its the same response he gives to every bloody post.
in my country we have a private system that is alive and well and a state system that is terminal in my opinion. yet here there is not even yet an attempt to do something about it. i think it will be allowed to totally collapse before there is action.
state control of providers is bound to fail, no nationalised industry works anywhere
would be better to move to a state backed insurance system but allow the patients to take payouts to any provider
let the providers compete directly for the patients payou
"state control of providers is bound to fail, no nationalised industry works anywhere"
Couldn't agree more. All those Japanese and French trains are so slooooow compared to our wonderful privatized railways.
And the Royal Mail is getting so much better.
You see, the idea that nationalised industries never work is a dangerous myth. Badly run nationalised industries don't work, but the idea that 'the market' is the solution to everything is just blind ideological bullshit.
"let the providers compete directly for the patients payou"
Interestingly, when you do that the private providers simply choose the 'best' customers - ie: the ones that are not likely to get sick and cost money.
The idea that businesses will compete for every customer is another dangerous myth.
Market moron.
Anonymous has a simplistic view of life shared by some of the more macho blairites like Milburn and Hewitt. Only able to judge people with reference to themselves and their close circle of friends they believe that people are basically greedy and lazy and will only perform if incentivised. Concepts such as goodwill and behaving ethically are beyond their understanding. How does anonymous explain why a soldier will put his life at risk with an act of bravery? Does he think the soldier is looking forward to getting a VC and selling it or getting a promotion.
I use to sit on the committee that gave out "excellence awards" to consultants and only about 1/3 ever applied. When the macho lay member successful business type asked why and was told most consultants didn't agree with the system his chin hit the floor. In his working life he had never realised there were people to whom principles matter more than money.
For a readable alternative view to socialised medicine have a look at onthefencefilms
and make up your own mind. I am not saying I agree with all of it but I do believe that people in the NHS can learn from private companies that rely on people coming through the door for their jobs.
Proponents of privatised medicine aren't so happy when people like myself stop taking our antipsychotics because we can't afford them and are uninsurable. Then they scream that the state should do something.
Oh, but I forgot. You lock people up, and when they can't afford hospitals, you wait until they hit rock bottom, slap an asbo on them for begging or drinking in public, wait for them to breach it and lock them in prison.
But that's ok because it's a different budget, so it won't make privatised medicine seem expensive.
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